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Alfredo Cecilio Rodríguez
Cedeño - Interview
An Infinite Green
By Reinaldo Cedeño Pineda
Translation by Ellen Rosenzweig
I prefer the smell of oil paints and wet soil
to the fragrance of perfume. Paintings were my girlfriends.
I like old trees: they talk to you. When I look someone
in the eye, I discover who they are. An artist is
never alone. A painter of late afternoons. I ask God
to put me at the top among landscapers.
Alfredo is a boy in a man’s body. He still
has a child-like capacity to be surprised, and his
tenderness, spontaneity and a special inner light
remain intact, shining in his eyes. He may have learned,
as José Martí wrote, that “one
can only be happy if he has maintained the soul of
a child.” This did not come about by chance,
but rather through a fortuitous combination of circumstances.
“My father had a farm, and he had planted
a lot of sugarcane, over there in Reparto Siboney,
on the outskirts of the city of Bayamo. I was born
into that environment on October 25, 1969, and I lived
there the first 10 years of my life, in close contact
with nature, a great pleasure for me. I’ve always
been curious about why I came to paint landscapes,
and now I’m sure that’s the reason.
“From the moment we woke up in the morning,
I was involved with nature: mango trees, coconut palms,
horses, goats… I have seven siblings, and I’m
one of the youngest. My brothers liked to fish, so
we’d go down to the river. I also met a lot
of wonderful people whom I’ll remember for the
rest of my life.”
His grandfather was a sergeant in the 19th-century
wars of independence against Spain, and his distinguished,
honorable father, Antonio Dominador Rodríguez
Martínez, with his great hooked nose and straight
hair, must have been very proud of him.
“When I did something my father didn’t
like, he’d punish me. ‘Come on, get down
on your knees and don’t get up until I say so!’
He wouldn’t permit anyone to smoke or drink
around him, and you had to address him as ‘Sir,’
right away when you talked to him. He taught us discipline,
and that kept us from becoming wild, aimless kids.”
Alfredo recalls an incident, like a rose blooming
in his memory. “My father sat me on his knee
and I was playing with a stick. I sketched a little
house in the dirt, with flowers and everything, and
my father applauded. That may have been the first
time I was praised in that way.”
His mother and father contributed equally to his
upbringing. Together, they provided him with a variety
of influences: his father’s Hispanic heritage,
his mother’s African and Cuban roots, and a
wide range of personality traits and traditions.
Alfredo moved to the city of Bayamo with his mother.
He speaks of her with reverence. Although he has done
many portraits of her, he doesn’t feel that
he has been able to capture her completely.
“Ah, Francisca Cedeño Zamora is the
most beautiful person in the world. I never get tired
of smothering her with affection. She was born deep
in the countryside and had so many responsibilities
as a child. The girls had to do the housework, maintain
the few pieces of furniture they had, do the cleaning.
And they also had to milk the cows, go to the river
and wash clothes, feed the farm animals. She’s
a tough, strong-willed woman, even now when she’s
almost 70.”
DISCOVERY
Martial arts movies – particularly those starring
Bruce Lee – and Westerns captured the young
man’s imagination. Sometimes he would copy something
out of a magazine or from a movie. Indeed, his first
“primitive” artwork wasn’t of palm
trees, but of a kung fu master.
“When I was 14, I cut up a shirt with a pair
of scissors. I spread the back of the shirt over a
board and painted a karate or kung fu scene, with
little Chinese houses. I used some watercolors and
some oil paints. Later on, I designed a pack of Spanish
playing cards.”
When the cards were dealt out, some of his friends
lifted their heads in surprise: “You MADE these?”
And that was the start of an irrepressible passion.
At 16, he dreamed of being a baseball player and,
if he was lucky, of taking part in one of those memorable
encounters between the Cuban and U.S. teams, the two
greatest in that game of balls and strikes. But fate
had another future in store for him.
“One day I went to Bayamo’s Central
Park and saw some artists painting. When I approached
them, I felt excited and a little scared. I loved
the smell of the paint. The next day, I said to a
man I knew, ‘Take me to the art school.’
And he answered, ‘Okay, but you’ll have
to get up early.’
“When we got to the school, that smell of
the oil paint thrilled me all over again. I prefer
the smell of oil paints and wet soil to the fragrance
of perfume.”
The school was named after Manuel del Socorro Rodríguez,
a multifaceted artist whose work adorns the altars
of Bayamo’s Greater Parish Church. All of a
sudden, Alfredo’s dreams seemed to be turning
into reality. But he had so much to learn, and we
all know that art instruction begins at an early age.
Nevertheless, Alfredo was not intimidated. He did
a charcoal drawing of Titian’s Danaë and
received a lot of advice and training. His talent
and persistence eventually convinced many teachers
that this young man deserved a chance, even though
he was not officially registered at the academy.
“I went to the art school every morning. At
noon I would go to the library and all afternoon I
would study books of famous paintings. In the evening
I went to the community cultural center. That was
my life from age 16 to 20. I didn’t have a lot
of girlfriends, because I kept them sort of apart
from my life: paintings were my girlfriends. I discovered
that painting was the passion of my life, and I’m
sure it will always be that way.”
IN THE SHADOW OF THE GREAT MASTERS
“I feel like my real education was through
the great masters. When I opened the books I saw the
works of Rembrandt, Velázquez, Gustave Courbet,
the 18th-century Dutch landscape painters. I said
to myself, ‘This is real painting: Goya, Rubens…’
but I was just an amateur. I had no method, no training,
no real teacher.
“I envy those painters from long ago who could
stand before enormous canvasses, at a time when there
was no photography or technological development, and
achieve magnificent things. I envy Michelangelo for
having painted the Sistine Chapel.
“When I find the right painting supplies I
get to work, always with the great masters as my reference.
I’m inspired by the Barbizon landscape artists,
the painters living outside of Paris. I also study
19th-century Cuban landscape painters like romantic
Esteban Chartrand and Valentín Sanz Carta,
who was more of a realist. And I think that I’m
somewhere in between them, in terms of colors and
feeling. As my work more closely approaches my own
period, I’m very concerned about the effect
of the brushstrokes, more than achieving a highly
polished painting.
“I started to study the Renaissance up to
the present, following my own instincts. I painted
everything I could. I was a bookworm; they had to
shoo me out of the library at closing time. I was
hungry for knowledge. My first idols were the Dutch
landscape painters. What atmosphere, what light, what
color!
“I especially liked to use emerald greens and
lemon yellow, in order to achieve different tonalities,
but I was in love with ochres and siennas, browns
in general, and I still am.”
And do you think those colors accurately
identify the Caribbean and Cuban natural world?
“Yes. Titian said to ‘dirty up’
colors, but what he really meant was to ‘gray
up’ colors. The colors of oil paints, as they
come out of the tube, do not exist in nature, not
with such total purity. When they are used unmixed,
it’s to create a specific effect.
“Blue or orange can do many things, but the
sky is more than that: it has ochre and a lot of other
things. If you mix Prussian blue with white, or cobalt
blue with white, you’re not going to achieve
that tone. Because the sky has an incredible number
of nuances, more than anyone can imagine or than can
be seen with the naked eye.”
Aren’t you worried that the viewer
will sense a coldness in your work, instead of the
warmth of the tropics?
“Look, I’m very strong on certain colors
and a certain kind of light. I don’t paint many
landscapes at noon, but rather at 10 in the morning.
What I like best is to paint in the late afternoon,
around 4 or 5 p.m., because there’s an element
of magic at that time.
“When the sun starts going down, but hasn’t
gone down completely, the clouds are still red but
begin to take on a little ochre. At that moment there
is such a wide a range of shades, so rich and picturesque
that it’s incredible. The trees change from
the bright green of midday and there is an array of
nuances more suited to my spirit. I’m a quiet
man; I like tranquility, solitude, meditation. I like
to sit in a corner with a book, reading and painting.
I like to hide from the world; I don’t like
hustle and bustle.”
You have referred to solitude several times.
Do you think it’s necessary for creating? Aren’t
you afraid, as poet Dulce María Loynaz put
it, that life will punish you, filling you up with
solitude?
“I have to be myself. You have to dig deep
in order to paint and bear witness to that powerful
force every human being carries inside, and that can
only be done in solitude. When you’re alone
you constantly discover and rediscover yourself.
“I’m married but I don’t have
kids. My paintings are my children, and they’ve
given me headaches sometimes, but it’s been
great. An artist, a human being can be afraid, but
he is never really alone.”
When we look at your paintings, we imagine
you in the countryside, making notes, with your eyes
filled with light…
“Well, I often go into the countryside, and
I do make a lot of sketches, of trees and of those
simple huts, called bohíos, so common in the
countryside, and just like Cuba’s native peoples
used to live in.
“There’s no canon for painting bohíos.
If you paint a bohío in a professional manner,
some will say it’s not realistic, but if you
go to the countryside you’ll find bohíos
of all kinds: made of palm thatching, of palm tree
planks, of adobe, of raw clay, and of woven grasses.
There is a huge variety, but at my first personal
show some critics said that I had painted bohíos
and oxcarts the way they used to be. So I told them,
‘No, if you go to the countryside, you’ll
see oxcarts and bohíos of all kinds.”
THE ROOTS OF MY SOUL
This artist still considers nature a gift and a privilege.
He had his first one-man show at age 18 and he has
won several national prizes in the category of landscapes,
in the eastern city of Las Tunas.
Alfredo Cecilio Rodríguez Cedeño is
a creator of landscapes; they are in his blood. But
he doesn’t believe in stereotypes or symbols.
And it’s clear that he’s moving in the
direction of large formats.
His modest, as yet unfinished home is filled with
books on painting, canvasses and recently used paintbrushes.
He is a simple man who looks toward the future. He
walks the narrow streets of his city with a strange
restlessness. And when it’s time to paint, “I
take refuge in the countryside.”
During a 19th-century uprising against colonial
power, the residents of San Salvador de Bayamo, founded
in 1513, preferred to burn their township down to
the ground rather than surrender it to the Spanish
crown. It was also the place where the strains of
“La Bayamesa” – now the national
anthem – were played for the first time, on
October 20, 1868. The lyrics, written by Perucho Figueredo,
summed up the Cubans’ nationalist spirit: “Do
not fear a glorious death/ because when one dies for
his country, he lives on.”
“I’m proud of my city and my country,
but in art nothing is sacred. It’s important
to criticize and discuss everything that’s painted
and seen. That’s why I don’t hesitate
to take things off or add things to my paintings.
An artist may put in a palm tree to please the public,
and say, ‘This is a Cuban painting because it
has a palm tree.’ But I might paint a landscape
without a palm tree and it would still be Cuban.
“Landscapes are universal. And I would continue
painting landscapes no matter where I lived: in Mexico
or in Greenland. A landscape is a landscape. I’m
not the type of painter who gets hung up on certain
things like royal poincianas or ceibas.
“I’m more interested in old trees, the
ones that talk to you and tell you they’re 70
or 80 years old; or those that are covered with reeds
and say, ‘I am nature, which has withstood everything.’
I like the old trees better than the young ones. I
think it’s my philosophy of life.”
On the other hand, by linking yourself so closely
with landscapes, aren’t you limiting your access
to other fields? Or do you have some kind of bias
against other themes or forms?
“I’m a young artist and, aside from landscape
painting, I want to do everything, although in my
own way. I’ve got a lot of things stored up
in my head, but I’m still faithful to landscapes.
I’ve done seascapes, but I’m really a
man of the land.
“I like the campesino, with a hoe in his hand.
I always include a human figure in the landscape.
There are places in the countryside that are completely
flat, with no mountains, filled with trees and houses:
it’s that human kind of landscape I like. I
also paint animals, because without them landscapes
and life in general would not be complete.
“Even though I don’t have a degree, I
keep painting constantly. My thirst for painting has
never been satiated. I’ve studied the human
figure and the atmospheres that can be created. I
came to my own conclusions, found my own atmosphere,
and I continue to build my personal library.
“Jean François Millet painted farm
laborers as if they were part of the land. He was
so identified with the land that he really had roots.
That’s the way I like to paint, all the way
back to the roots, the roots of my soul.
PRAYERS TO GOD
Instead of boasting about what he has accomplished,
Alfredo insists on talking about what he still needs
to do. He is a man of conviction, and he also appeals
to the heavens.
“I’ve got a lot more goals to reach.
You’re speaking with a man who hasn’t
traveled even half of the road ahead, a man with any
aching to do things, to paint. With God willing, one
day you’ll interview me and I’ll be able
to say that I’ve achieved many things, many
of the dreams I have inside.”
How far do you want to go?
“As a landscape painter, I hope to reach to
top, not just in Cuba, but throughout the world.”
Isn’t that awfully ambitious?
“It might sound ambitious or pedantic, but
it’s my dream. In my prayers, I ask God to take
me to the top among landscape painters. If that’s
immodest, may God forgive me. I also include my fellow
artist Jorge Rodríguez in my prayers, because
to my mind he’s an excellent landscape painter.”
Do you have a habitual way of looking at
your subject?
“The eyes say it all, they tell you a lot about
people. I’ve even painted my own eyes. Eyes
have a vital force that isn’t found in either
the hands or the voice. When I look people in the
eyes, I can see who they are. That’s why I stress
that part a lot. [The late Ecuadoran painter and sculptor]
Guayasamín used to say that even if a person
gets fat or thin, the nose, eyes and mouth stay the
same. I agree with that.”
Don’t you honestly feel that everything
has been said and done in regard to landscape painting
– that green can only go so far, that many pictorial
trends have emerged precisely as a reaction to this
creative exhaustion?
“One critic told me he had a ‘phobia’
of landscapes. This genre has always had its ups and
downs, and it will continue to have them, just like
portraits. But that critic was referring to ‘palm
trees and pretty little things,’ purely ornamental.
I paint landscapes that I enjoy. I may paint with
ocher, sienna, green tones – and if you criticize
me, that’s your opinion. That’s what I
feel and what I do.
“The geography of the world and interior is
constantly changing. Green is infinite.”
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